– What do World War I, apples, and a computer
hacker have in common? They’re all key parts of
the very, very old beef between Georgia and Georgia Tech. The Georgia-Georgia Tech football game, better known as Clean, Old-Fashioned Hate, has been played well over 100 times. Naturally, it’s had lots
of great and memorable football moments, from
Buck Belue leading Georgia to a 20 point comeback win in 1978, to Harrison Butker hitting
a 53 yard field goal to send the game to overtime where Georgia Tech won in 2014. These teams have ruined
seasons for one another. Won when they weren’t supposed
to and gotten coaches fired. But this Beef History is going to focus on the things outside of the games, or at least adjacent to them, that make this rivalry historic. The first time these two teams
were set to play each other, people were happy to put
aside the stress of the world and just enjoy a football game. I mean, yeah there were
rumors that Georgia Tech was using players that
weren’t bonafide students, but this was 1893 and everyone
was feeling a little weird. The Supreme Court had
just ruled that tomatoes were legally vegetables. Of course, then Georgia
Tech won that game in Athens and well, the Georgia fans
remembered those rumors, especially when it came
to player slash coach Leonard Wood, who was
a doctor in the Army… and 33 years old. They also remembered
that one of the officials was the brother of a Georgia Tech trainer, who was also playing for the team. So some of them started this chant. Well, well, well, who can tell, the Tech’s umpire has cheated like blank. You weren’t allowed to
say hell in the newspaper in 1893, I guess. Anyways, the chant was the
comparatively nice part. Some Georgia fans started
poking at the Tech players with their canes. Others threw rocks at their
new friends from Atlanta. One Bulldog player
supposedly pulled a knife. With the benefit of hindsight, we know that those Georgia
fans totally overreacted. According to official school records, Wood had indeed enrolled at Georgia Tech- on November 2nd, two
days before this game. Oh, and he left the
school that same month. Again, this was all in
the first game Georgia and Georgia Tech had
played against one another. It was the 6th football game
they’d ever played combined. Georgia then went 5-0-1 in the next six games in the series. If you think this calmed their hatred, let me tell you about the
Georgia-Clemson game in 1903. I promise, it’s relevant. That game in Athens was the
season opener for both teams, and Clemson won the game easily, 29-0. Georgia’s captain was not
a sore loser, however. In fact, he wanted to see
Clemson do even better against their next opponent, so he made them an offer. For every point they scored over 29, Georgia would buy Clemson
a bushel of apples. Apparently eating apples
was the thing you did for fun at Clemson in 1903. If you guessed that
Clemson’s next opponent was Georgia Tech, good job. And a motivated Clemson
really took it to Tech, winning 73-0 and
earning 44 bushels of apples in the process. There was however, an unexpected downside to this arrangement. Georgia Tech was so impressed
by the whooping they received, that they decided to hire
Clemson’s coach, John Heisman. At the time, Tech hadn’t
done much as a program, with 10 wins, five ties and 32 losses
in program history. Heisman changed that,
making the Jackets much more competitive year to year and winning the National Championship in 1917, with a team many considered to be one of the greatest of all time. Oh yeah, that’s also how
this rivalry got some serious parade beef. It’s 1919, just before a baseball game between the two schools. In the spirit of post-war happiness, Georgia students put together
a couple of parade floats. The first was a tank with
“Argonne” written on the side. The second was a car,
in Georgia Tech colors and driven by someone
in Georgia Tech gear, and that car had a message on it too. “Georgia in France, Tech in Atlanta.” This made Tech mad, really mad. And for those of you who aren’t
huge World War I buffs, I’ll explain why. Georgia didn’t field a
football team in 1917 or 1918, due to student
participation in the war effort. According to this note from the class of 1919, all but one of them had served in either the Army or the Navy, and many of them were part
of the Meuse-Argonne Offensive, in 1918, the deadliest
battle in American history. Georgia Tech, on the other hand, actually saw enrollment grow to record levels during the war. That was in part due to
the federal government relying on Tech as a
military training ground, including a training program for pilots and in 1918, an ROTC
program that was mandatory for freshman and sophomores. That also meant there were
plenty of students on campus available to play football. So Tech continued its
team during the war, including that 1917 championship squad. You can see why Georgia Tech
might find a parade float that more or less called
them cowards insulting. So insulting that they decided nope, they were done playing Georgia in sports. And for five years, they didn’t. It was another four years
after that before they were willing to play Georgia in football again. But a form of revenge was waiting. The 1927 Georgia Bulldogs, known as the Dream and Wonder team, tore through the first nine
games on their schedule. Georgia Tech was coming
off a bad 1926 season, where they went four and five. And though they were
improved, most didn’t think they were on Georgia’s level. Still, 40,000 fans packed
a very rainy Grant Field in Atlanta, to watch what they thought would be a game for the history books. And that is what they got, as
Tech upset Georgia 12-0. But beyond the final score, there were two pieces of trickery by Georgia Tech Coach Bill Alexander, that were just perfect beef
additions to this rivalry. First, remember all that rain and mud? In the first half, Alexander
decided to mostly avoid it. Whenever Georgia Tech
got the ball on offense, he punted – on first down. This was not merely to avoid turnovers and protect field
position, it was a setup. Late in the second quarter, Warner Mizell took the snap on first down. Georgia players expected
him to punt the ball, but this time, he threw it, to quarterback Bob Durant, for the first touchdown of the game. Tech scored again in the second half, though they wouldn’t
need it since the defense never got scored on. And that brings us to act of
subterfuge number two, which was a longer play by Alexander. Three weeks before this, against LSU, Georgia Tech’s second
string started the game. They did the same thing against
their next two opponents because this was all part of
The Plan, a tactic by Alexander to rest his starters as much as he could
before the Georgia game and give them plenty of time to prepare for the Dawgs, and the Dawgs in particular. This man devoted an entire
month to ruining a rival season. We need that kind of
dedicated spite from coaches more today, if you ask me. And the shenanigans kept going from there. There was the near riot the cops could barely control in 1930. There were the two Georgia Tech
victories in 1943 and 1944, that Georgia doesn’t count
in the official series record because they thought Tech
had an unfair advantage, thanks to World War II. There was the coal strike,
rumoredly encouraged by Georgia fans to keep
Georgia Tech from taking the train to Athens for the game in 1946. Tech wound up chartering a plane
to get around that problem. There was the time in the 50’s, where some Georgia Tech
students reportedly tried to chop down the chapel
bell tower in Athens in the middle of the night. But then the Yellow
Jackets made a big, bold, future changing decision. At an SEC meeting in 1964, Georgia Tech announced they were leaving the conference they’d co-founded and going independent. They said they had no choice
because they didn’t like recruiting and scholarship
practices within the conference. Though there were some financial
advantages to leaving too. The Dawgs weren’t exactly
thrilled about this. Their AD said, “something will be gone “from the Georgia-Georgia Tech series now, “in a strictly football sense.” And he was kind of right. At the time Tech left the SEC, their record against
Georgie was just about even. From their departure through 2017, they went 14 and 40 versus the Dogs. In 19 years as an independent program, the Jackets went to six bowl games. That’s half as many as they’d gone to in their last 19 seasons with the SEC. Tech tried to un-ring this bell in 1977 when they petitioned to
return to the conference. But the remaining members voted unanimously against expansion. The Yellow Jackets wound
up going to the ACC instead and they did take home a
National Championship in 1990. But you don’t need to share
a conference to share beef. Georgia-Georgia Tech can
still inspire the visiting team to put the home team’s landscaping in their mouths when they win. Georgia’s still the school
that appears in both of Tech’s fight songs, and
not all that respectfully. Georgia’s still the team that went for a totally unnecessary
touchdown on fourth and goal late in the 1993 game, and got it, prompting a long, messy brawl. This is still the game that
inspired one Tech student to hack into the University
of Georgia’s master calendar, and put “Get Ass Kicked by
GT” for the day of this game. Granted, he wound up
sitting in an Athens jail on Christmas Eve, facing
felony charges for that, though eventually they
wound up getting dropped. Rivalry beef should be serious, but not you know, prison serious.

Georgia and Georgia Tech’s beef spans football, war, and apples

100 thoughts on “Georgia and Georgia Tech’s beef spans football, war, and apples

  • November 26, 2018 at 5:13 pm
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    Please do Michigan vs. Ohio State and Leafs vs. Habs

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  • November 26, 2018 at 9:22 pm
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    Go Dawgs

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  • November 27, 2018 at 2:11 am
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    To Hell with Georgia !!!

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  • November 27, 2018 at 8:40 am
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    Penguins vs Flyers beef history!!

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  • November 27, 2018 at 6:43 pm
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    i go to georgia state and i like it here : )

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  • November 27, 2018 at 11:43 pm
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    Im a ga fan GO DAWGS

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  • November 28, 2018 at 1:42 am
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    Ayooo, GO TECH

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  • November 28, 2018 at 3:30 am
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    Ohio St vs Michigan or Bo Schembechler vs Woody Hayes and the ten year war

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  • November 28, 2018 at 3:54 am
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    You should do more 19th century~Early 20th century sports stuff.

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  • November 28, 2018 at 4:48 am
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    Do the Palmetto Bowl

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  • November 28, 2018 at 5:08 pm
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    Please do a OU UT Red River beef history for the Big 12 championship

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  • November 29, 2018 at 5:16 am
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    THWg! Go Jackets!

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  • November 29, 2018 at 9:39 am
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    Georgia went 40-14 against Tech because Tech left the SEC, yes, but lest we forget integration was the rage in the post-Civil Rights 70s and UGA could get better recruits as an affiliated school than the bookish Tech could/can. Why did Tech run the option for a decade? There's why

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  • November 30, 2018 at 5:15 pm
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    Am I the only one that hates all the betting and live stream spamming here? It kinda ruins the CONVERSATION wading through all this cr*p! Hoping for a great game! Go Utes and Go Huskies!

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  • December 1, 2018 at 9:23 am
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    Do the Beef of Ohio State & Michigan now that would be a great Wonder post especially after what happened when Ohio State clearly obliterated Michigan

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  • December 2, 2018 at 7:57 am
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    Josh Norman vs Odell

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  • December 3, 2018 at 10:44 am
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    Go tech!!!

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  • December 6, 2018 at 12:49 am
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    No love for UGF? Booooo go pandas

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  • December 10, 2018 at 7:39 pm
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    To Hell with Georgia!

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  • December 11, 2018 at 9:54 pm
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    I admit this episode was very hard to follow

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  • December 13, 2018 at 3:52 pm
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    What about UL and SCLSU??

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  • December 14, 2018 at 7:41 am
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    Georgia tech is the best tech

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  • December 20, 2018 at 4:58 pm
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    River plate Vs Boca juniors

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  • December 21, 2018 at 4:12 pm
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    When are you guys gonna do an Arsenal v Tottenham beef history

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  • December 21, 2018 at 7:57 pm
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    Missouri vs Kansas

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  • December 22, 2018 at 10:39 pm
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    Do clemson vs south Carolina

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  • December 24, 2018 at 8:33 pm
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    Go Dawgs

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  • December 26, 2018 at 8:51 pm
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    Atlanta Vs The Whole Damn State Of Georgia.

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  • January 7, 2019 at 12:48 pm
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    Do falcons vs saints beef

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  • January 12, 2019 at 9:08 pm
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    A&M – UT beef (RIP)

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  • January 12, 2019 at 9:53 pm
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    GO DAWGS

    but I still whole-heartedly respect the Yellow Jackets

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  • January 14, 2019 at 4:09 am
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    I live in athens.

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  • January 16, 2019 at 5:47 pm
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    I love this story!

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  • January 18, 2019 at 10:11 pm
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    this guys voice is annoying

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  • January 20, 2019 at 6:21 pm
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    Stl cards vs chic cubs

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  • January 26, 2019 at 9:16 pm
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    Ohio state Michingan beef history??

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  • January 30, 2019 at 10:05 pm
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    As a newer generation Georgia fan, this isn’t really a rivalry. One team is a conference championship contender almost every year, with a playoff appearance and frequent New Years six appearances. The other team runs the triple option.

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  • February 8, 2019 at 4:25 am
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    For UGA this isn't a rivalry game. This is a game you DONT lose.

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  • February 9, 2019 at 1:03 am
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    TO HELL WITH GEORGIA!

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  • February 18, 2019 at 5:00 am
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    To hell with georgia

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  • February 19, 2019 at 12:20 am
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    BOOORING! Legit fell asleep through this beef. Way to old who cares about beef this old. How about CURRENT beefs

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  • February 20, 2019 at 2:26 am
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    This is so boring but to heck with tech

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  • February 20, 2019 at 9:18 pm
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    To hell with tech

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  • February 21, 2019 at 3:54 pm
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    Lmfaoo the palmetto bowl South Carolina/ Clemson, USC/UCLA

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  • February 24, 2019 at 4:38 pm
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    Go Tech!

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  • March 1, 2019 at 11:24 am
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    Bushels of apples? A most tasty reward I do declare.

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  • March 2, 2019 at 3:23 pm
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    Bet GT is happy that Paul Johnson is gone.

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  • March 4, 2019 at 5:14 am
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    Please do Purdue vs Indiana beef history

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  • March 8, 2019 at 10:11 pm
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    Do Clemson vs. South Carolina

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  • March 14, 2019 at 1:42 pm
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    GO TECH

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  • March 22, 2019 at 5:56 pm
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    WHAT'S THE GOOD WORD?!

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  • March 24, 2019 at 6:15 pm
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    old school beef was something else

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  • April 1, 2019 at 6:57 pm
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    unc/duke
    michigan/ohio state
    alabama/lsu

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  • April 4, 2019 at 2:32 pm
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    Another interesting bit: the uGA fans started throwing rocks and mud at the Tech players during their first game, so much so that they had to end early and run back to their train to take them back to Atlanta. Their passenger train wasn’t ready, so they boarded a box car. The train actually crashed (!!) and the players eventually made it back to Atlanta. A newspaper said, ‘The Wrecks Rambled Back to Tech, and thus the name Rambling Wreck from Georgia Tech was born. This is a part of our fight song, and also the name of the student body mascot, the Ramblin’ Reck, a 1930 Ford Model A sport coupe!

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  • April 4, 2019 at 11:12 pm
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    Texas vs Texas A&M

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  • April 12, 2019 at 10:14 pm
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    This is the best sports series on YouTube hands down, drop the mic no one can compete.

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  • April 18, 2019 at 2:39 pm
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    I'm literally eating an apple as I watch this. Really helps you appreciate Clemson's motivation.

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  • April 18, 2019 at 4:07 pm
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    To hell with tech

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  • April 19, 2019 at 10:04 pm
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    Go Dawgs

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  • April 20, 2019 at 5:47 pm
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    Very well done. Kudos for the Clemson plug.

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  • May 20, 2019 at 11:02 pm
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    Michigan vs Ohio state

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  • May 22, 2019 at 7:40 pm
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    Oh GTU and UG are hate, no. Michigan vs Ohio State

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  • May 25, 2019 at 11:01 pm
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    Do Nebraska vs Oklahoma

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  • May 29, 2019 at 5:47 pm
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    Do A&M & UT

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  • June 2, 2019 at 4:16 pm
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    I love the Georgia bulldogs because I'm a fan of the Georgia bulldogs football team and I hate Georgia tech!!! To hell with Georgia tech!!! I 🖤 UGA!!! I 🖤 Georgia!!! Go Dawgs!!! Sic em!!!

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  • June 6, 2019 at 3:14 pm
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    You should do a baseball beef

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  • June 16, 2019 at 5:36 pm
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    Georgia be like to Georgia tech: we better hahaha
    Georgia tech be like:ok?

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  • June 22, 2019 at 9:19 pm
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    Y'all need to do A&M-UT

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  • June 25, 2019 at 2:40 am
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    I cant be the only person whose favorite part is reading the unrelated news clips. Check 4:49

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  • July 9, 2019 at 8:40 pm
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    Love it love it love it

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  • July 13, 2019 at 6:13 pm
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    WHATS THE GOOD WORD?

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  • July 14, 2019 at 12:03 pm
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    What song is this??

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  • July 14, 2019 at 8:21 pm
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    MSU vs u of m please

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  • July 22, 2019 at 1:43 pm
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    It was the deadliest campaign in American history, the offensive itself consists of more than one battle.

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  • July 23, 2019 at 6:36 pm
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    Georgia and Florida is a big rivalry or georgia and Auburn

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  • July 26, 2019 at 12:20 am
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    That parade float still seems so over the line.

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  • July 29, 2019 at 4:48 pm
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    Georgia fans over reacting sounds like every game at samford

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  • July 31, 2019 at 11:26 pm
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    I am curious for the St. Thomas vs. St. John’s rivalry from Minnesota. Even though it is Division III I feel that it is a storied beef history that should be highlighted.

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  • August 4, 2019 at 2:05 am
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    Do bedlam Oklahoma state vs Oklahoma

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  • August 4, 2019 at 2:06 am
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    Go Oklahoma state

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  • August 4, 2019 at 2:08 am
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    Sooner bred sooner born when you play the Oklahoma state cowboys o u will most often find out that you lose the game sooner rather than later

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  • August 4, 2019 at 4:58 am
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    Grew up next to Georgia tech I love em both

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  • August 4, 2019 at 3:25 pm
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    Sick'em Dawgs.

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  • August 7, 2019 at 2:10 am
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    When UGA gets three more National Championships to match Techs FOUR (1917, 1928, 1952, 1990) then come talk to me!

    And before any UGA fan pops off with, "Well getting one in 1917 doesn't count!"……my question would be would anyone dismiss Alabama getting one in the same year? I think not!

    Oh by the way, Tech STILL owns the longest win streak between them and UGA at 8 games!

    THWG!!!!!

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  • August 15, 2019 at 2:29 am
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    Why don't you cover Ohio State and Michigan

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  • August 21, 2019 at 1:49 am
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    The most boring beef history. Please never let this guy do one again.

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  • August 23, 2019 at 2:36 am
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    Im an Georgian. When I was younger, once georgia tech won i would call my now deceased grandfather and always stir something up. I miss those days. 😪

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  • August 24, 2019 at 5:25 am
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    GATA Dawgs

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  • August 26, 2019 at 4:35 pm
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    To Hell With Georgia

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  • August 28, 2019 at 9:27 pm
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    That punt thing is bloody brilliant.

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  • August 31, 2019 at 1:03 am
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    Dad was a Tech grad, I grew up a tech fan, now I’m a senior at UGA. Technically I’ve never seen my team lose this matchup. Of course, they’ve never won either

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  • September 2, 2019 at 2:49 am
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    THWG

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  • September 3, 2019 at 11:54 pm
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    Dont forget Heisman murdered another team 222-0 at GT. Highlights include a kicker fielding his own kick off for a TD

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  • September 7, 2019 at 10:33 pm
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    I'm surprised an Uga never took a chomp at a GT player.

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  • September 8, 2019 at 3:47 am
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    Georgia is made because tech won 4 national championships and Uga got one

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  • September 9, 2019 at 8:55 am
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    Please do UT-A&M

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  • September 9, 2019 at 4:51 pm
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    Auburn vs Georgia is better

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  • September 11, 2019 at 6:14 am
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    Do Florida-Georgia
    Texas-Texas A&M
    Steelers-Browns
    Browns-Bengals
    Dodgers-Giants

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  • September 11, 2019 at 10:55 am
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    Tennessee vs. Vanderbilt

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