[ TRY ]The N64 controller has an unfortunate
reputation. People seem to hate the button layout, the
3-prong design, or maybe they think it’s just too big. And then of course, there’s the analog stick. But no matter what anyone thinks, nothing
can take away that magical feeling I had when I first held this controller that allowed
me to go in all directions in a way that I never before imagined was possible. To be honest, I still love the N64 controller. But can we make it better? Well, I’m not sure yet – let’s find out. [ MUSIC: “Principle” by Matt McCheskey
] Come on, this thing is great. The A and B buttons are at just the right
angle, the C-buttons work fine as action buttons when needed, and the idea of a trigger under
the controller seemed so novel at the time. Now look, I don’t know what you kids were
doing that caused your analog sticks to get all crummy because I probably played my N64
way more than you did, and mine are still fine. Hey, I had the Mario Party blister too! All I did was clean out the pivot points now
and then with a Q-tip, though I dunno if that’s really what helped preserve them. [ COURY ] C’mon, this thing is NOT awesome. Absolutely, without a doubt my least favorite
controller out there. Granted, I don’t have a lot of special memories
of the N64 in the first place, so that probably has a lot to do with it. It’s just such a let down after how much
I loved the SNES controller. But that said, I do understand what they were
trying to do with it. Even though I just hate the layout of the
thing, I can appreciate the innovation that Nintendo was aiming for. My biggest gripe has always been that the
analog stick always felt like it could break off at any time… like it was a toy. Now the Gamecube controller on the other hand,
while not exactly my favorite controller either, has a heck of an analog stick. A great size and the slight rubber grip is
pretty great. [ TRY ] OK OK, I’ll admit – much as I love
the layout of the N64 controller, analog sticks have come a long way, and the N64’s is hardly
in the top tier. The Gamecube’s ball-style pivot cap is definitely
the right idea, especially for durability. And there actually are a few N64 controllers
built this way. Japanese accessory maker Hori is well-known
for products like the essential SNES-style Hori Pad for Gamecube, and they actually made
a very unique N64 controller with only two prongs and a Gamecube-style analog stick. But unfortunately, it’s rare and has become
quite expensive. If you ever stayed in a hotel in the early
2000s, you may have found another strange N64 controller in the TV cabinet. This operated a service called LodgeNet, which
allowed you to play N64 games on demand for exorbitant prices, but far more interestingly,
this controller features what is essentially a Gamecube style analog stick. It’s a little smaller and lacks the rubber
tip, but even I remember thinking that this would be amazing to have in my own N64 controllers. Unfortunately, the LodgeNet controller ends
with what looks like a telephone jack, and is not compatible with a real N64 system. But that’s OK because I recently learned
during one of our livestreams that you can actually buy a different Gamecube-style analog
stick for self installation on eBay for like $10. I grabbed one from a seller called Ice & Fire
Games, and it came in a little box that actually says, “Gamecube Style Joystick for N64.” Now I’m not one for performing difficult
mods, but there’s no way this is hard. Let’s see how it turns out. [ MUSIC ] Alright, a little scary regarding the Z button
there, but I have to admit it does feel pretty nice. So, I’m gonna go ahead and put it through
its paces and see if it works out OK. But in the meantime, Coury installed one too,
so I’m wondering if it’s done anything to change his opinion. [ COURY ] For the most part I like it a bit. It feels more robust despite being a lot looser
than the original analog stick. There’s very little resistance, so it’s
more up to you to adjust and use restraint when trying to say, move slowly in a game. Another big difference is that there seems
to be a much greater deadzone. What I mean is that you have to push the stick
further for it to activate. It’s possible that this was done on purpose
because of the stick having less resistance. While Try will be able to feel a more nuanced
difference due to the sheer amount of time he’s spent on his N64, I’m more than happy
to enjoy this new stick and get to know it. A definite improvement for me. [ TRY ] So I’ve spent some time with the
new analog stick over the past few days, and… I really wish I didn’t have to say this,
but in addition to minor quibbles with how the build quality feels, I’m kinda disappointed
for a much more significant reason. See, Coury is right in saying that the dead
zone is smaller, but every extra degree of tilt is also quite a bit smaller, making it
difficult to move carefully. But perhaps even worse, this new stick is
missing a number of degrees of movement in every direction. When I noticed that Mario was turning kind
of strangely, almost like he was snapping to a new direction too quickly, I soon realized
exactly what was wrong. By tilting the stick straight forward, I was
able to see that characters won’t turn at all until the stick has moved quite a bit. With the original stick, even the slightest
directional adjustment registers, and I as I was swapping controllers and testing many
different games, I realized just how much this matters. I thought for a moment that maybe it would
be OK for racing games, where stick movement is mostly left and right, but I soon found
that those minor adjustments from the center are just as critical here too. As I switched back and forth between the two
controllers, I felt a surprising sense of comfort when I held the original controller
again. Sure, it lacks the rubber tip, but I immediately
felt much more in control, and it’s not just because I’m so used to it. Maybe you hate the N64 controller so much,
or your analog stick is in such dire shape that a replacement stick will be an excellent
option for you. But for me… if nothing else, this experience
really gave me a newfound appreciation for just what a responsive device this really
is, and how well developers designed their games around it. So if you’ve got your hands on a good N64
controller… well, be thankful and treat it right.

N64 Analog Stick Replacement – GameCube Style on the Nintendo 64 / MY LIFE IN GAMING
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100 thoughts on “N64 Analog Stick Replacement – GameCube Style on the Nintendo 64 / MY LIFE IN GAMING

  • July 11, 2018 at 10:50 pm
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    This is more of an aside, but if you're just looking to replace a bad joystick on an N64 controller, the same company that makes that GameCube style replacement sticks ALSO makes an "Optical" N64 joystick which feels pretty much exactly like the original.
    Just don't spring for the cheaper option – it's kinda gummy and stiffer than the original, and the potentiometers on it don't quite give you the same degree of control as an Optical replacement does.

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  • July 13, 2018 at 3:42 pm
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    Those facial expressions, cmon man tone them down a bit haha

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  • July 16, 2018 at 6:39 pm
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    I’m an oddball because I LOVE the N64 controller when I first held I fell in love with it

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  • July 17, 2018 at 12:47 am
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    This channel is my new crack. Love this stuff.

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  • July 30, 2018 at 3:36 pm
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    They hated the N64 let them hate lmao

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  • August 8, 2018 at 11:29 pm
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    This is my favourite console and controller ever

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  • August 9, 2018 at 11:04 pm
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    The use of cartridges instead of disks and not updating the controller were both ridiculous decisions.

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  • August 22, 2018 at 6:46 am
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    Does the lodge net stick use the same connector? I'd be curious to see if you could put that stick in the original controller.

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  • August 31, 2018 at 12:40 pm
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    -I PROBABLY PLAYED WITH IT way MORE THEN YOU DID 😏
    Me: -okay 😐

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  • September 2, 2018 at 4:07 pm
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    Was that "Blast Corps" music I detected?

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  • September 8, 2018 at 5:01 am
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    could not watch this video the guys voice did my fucking head in

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  • September 9, 2018 at 5:19 am
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    There’s a phrase for videos like this. It’s called “long winded”

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  • September 9, 2018 at 2:25 pm
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    I will always have a love hate relationship whith the N64 controller

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  • September 25, 2018 at 8:14 pm
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    There's a revised module that allows 360° of input without that stupid 45° snap, but there is still a deadzone, but you get used to it surprisingly fast

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  • September 26, 2018 at 3:38 pm
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    Why is this so cringey?

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  • September 30, 2018 at 1:10 am
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    Just watching this video for the first time now. I bought one of these GC-style replacement sticks about a year ago, and found it to be virtually unplayable due to the dead zone. I had thought it was input lag caused by the control stick, but now I see what it is. (And I play on a CRT so I don't experience any input lag). Anyway, unfortunately, this GC style stick didn't work for me either. Original N64 controllers and even some third party controllers give me great results.

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  • September 30, 2018 at 6:19 pm
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    Ya know, maybe it wasn't such a good idea to perform the replacement on a Gold controller because now it sucks a little bit

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  • October 8, 2018 at 8:52 am
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    I recently bought a genuine n64 controller with a gamecube stick. Let me tell you that games such as mario kart 64 and starfox handle WAY better than usual. The gamecube stick is much better for games with fluid movement. However I find that the movement feels the same in Mario 64, couldn't tell you why.

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  • October 10, 2018 at 6:36 pm
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    Either of you two tried the brawler64 by retrofighters?

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  • October 11, 2018 at 2:05 am
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    Those facial expressions are priceless hahah

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  • October 13, 2018 at 12:43 am
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    I agree . Idk what the hell people did to get they're analog stick's all cruddy

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  • October 21, 2018 at 7:16 pm
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    What you want to do is get a replacement bowl (where the stick sits in) and maybe some gears. much cheaper and still using most of the original parts. you can find these here and there on the internet, I use some from kitsch-bent. Also you'll want to lubricate the parts to ensure they last. Should work nicely if you're OK with spending a little more time

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  • October 23, 2018 at 6:20 am
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    Yep, so I was going to get one of these, now I'm thinking maybe I just save my money, I managed to get a good controller with a good stick, I'll keep it as it is.

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  • October 30, 2018 at 4:38 pm
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    Love this guy's sincere passion for retro gaming. He's the real deal. 🙂

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  • October 30, 2018 at 10:21 pm
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    Oh how I love Blast Corps and it's wonderful soundtrack.

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  • November 3, 2018 at 8:02 am
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    Yeah, the high sensitivity can be a problem. These replacement sticks are good in a pinch, and if you find the cable in yours to be a bit too long just twist the leads together; that shortens it up enough to make for a nice, snug fit that is sure not to interfere with the body assembly.

    Later versions (Mine is "V4" apparently) might have improvements, but I really wish there was an adjustable pot to tweak just how sensitive it is.

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  • November 3, 2018 at 11:24 pm
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    I've not found any decent replacement sticks for my worn N64 controllers. I guess a Brawler 64 will be the best option for me.

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  • November 4, 2018 at 5:44 am
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    Fascinating insight as always boys and excellent use of music!

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  • November 9, 2018 at 8:44 pm
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    Excellent choice of blast corps music.

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  • November 10, 2018 at 10:24 pm
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    Blast Corps music FTW

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  • November 17, 2018 at 5:01 am
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    Highlight of this episode is the Jimmy Eat World shirt.

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  • November 19, 2018 at 6:21 pm
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    Nobody will read this, but after playing about a bit, I found the way to really re-vitalise an old N64 stick. Wrap the end of the stick (the bottom end of course, not the thumb part, haha) in a thin layer of PTFE tape. Try it. Holy shit. It tightens it up and makes it feel like a brand new stick.

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  • November 20, 2018 at 7:32 pm
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    Looks like I'll just be repairing my old n64 controllers. Pretty bummed, I was excited about getting a new one 🙁

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  • November 22, 2018 at 2:50 am
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    Which side are you on? Like=Team OEM stick, comment=Gamecube

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  • November 22, 2018 at 3:07 am
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    I love the original analog stick of n 64 controller

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  • November 22, 2018 at 2:32 pm
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    why dont just take the analog stick from that hotel controller?

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  • November 26, 2018 at 6:54 pm
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    Not sure why people hate the 64 controller, this video makes pretty accurate points as to why it's great for what it does.

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  • December 1, 2018 at 10:07 pm
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    l love the n64 controller left and right handers alike…and the trigger underneath..genius… my fav….controller

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  • December 4, 2018 at 11:08 pm
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    I like the N64 controller, it is built with ergonomics in mind regardless if they are applicable in actual use.
    The onlything i did not like was the four yellow buttons that in many games represent mainly menu options.
    This does not work, a menu selection through the D-Pad was a nicer and simpler solution.

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  • December 8, 2018 at 11:10 am
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    We have the technology. We can rebuild it.

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  • December 9, 2018 at 2:31 pm
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    I liked the video but the over emphises on things akward to watch and oh my gosh the pitch of his voice.. Is terrible

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  • December 12, 2018 at 5:01 am
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    I like the mix of viewpoints presented

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  • December 16, 2018 at 10:02 pm
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    Stop it with the close-ups of the dirt on your controllers

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  • December 18, 2018 at 3:28 am
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    How did the analog stick not get the nick name "The Mushroom" ?

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  • December 18, 2018 at 5:11 pm
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    I think the 64 stick was gross

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  • December 26, 2018 at 12:40 am
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    I’m 11 and I held an n64 in my hands

    I don’t get why people hate it, it’s actually really uncomfortable

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  • January 7, 2019 at 5:45 am
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    0:43 Ok, the facial expressions are just too much, I actually can’t watch this…

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  • January 8, 2019 at 9:25 am
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    Does you z button messed up on the new replacement..mine is

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  • January 12, 2019 at 11:16 pm
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    Shame this didn't work properly. It would be lovely to have 100% working controllers again.

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  • January 13, 2019 at 4:07 am
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    I actually like the N64 analog stick, though I do kind of wish it had a rubber tip and will agree that it is horrible when it comes to durability, especially if you play a lot of mario party 1.

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  • January 14, 2019 at 5:34 pm
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    I don't think the N64 controller is bad at all actually hell I was quite surprised by how comfortable it is. However it is clearly a product of it's time and it hasn't aged well honestly compared to the PS1 Dualshock and even the Saturn 3D pad.

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  • January 18, 2019 at 5:20 am
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    Everything about the N64 is difficult these days.

    1. Finding one in good or great shape
    2. Attaching it to an HDTV without having it look like ass and without it costing your liver
    3. Emulating it satisfactorily
    4. Affording the games. Also finding games with their original boxes
    5. Finding a decent controller with a good analog stick and also having it not cost your liver

    If I could emulate it perfectly I wouldn't even give a shit about the other problems. I don't have the money to be one of these huge game collectors and pay thousands of dollars for old game carts. Like so many other people my age that I'm sure feel the same, I wish I would have kept my original N64 and it's games.

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  • January 20, 2019 at 1:09 am
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    Intro song title please

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  • January 20, 2019 at 8:05 pm
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    www.STEELSTICKS64.com is the way to go!

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  • January 20, 2019 at 9:30 pm
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    He did that to a gold controller!!!!!

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  • February 1, 2019 at 10:00 pm
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    whats the song played while modding the controller?

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  • February 11, 2019 at 8:09 pm
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    I LOVE the N64 controller! I loved! I still love it! And it was very important for the gaming community

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  • February 14, 2019 at 6:48 am
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    Great video. I'm currently in the market for a new N64 controller and I really appreciated the detailed information here.

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  • February 17, 2019 at 8:00 am
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    could you not have pulled them apart more and put the old chip in the new stick??? seems as if a little soldering might make this an excellent option or would there be sizing issues, in any case I'm sure those sizing issues could be rectified, I pulled a controller with a pretty shitty stick apart just recently and mended it with some rubber to raise the joystick up. Fixed one problem but it's a little sluggish now, but totally functional. As I looked at the parts I thought of this video and wondered "why not just take the original chip and put it in a better designed joystick box???" I'm no pro with a soldering kit, but as this is my frankenstein controller I think I'll do that in the future. Who knows, might be the best thing next to just forking over a little coin for a brawler.

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  • February 20, 2019 at 4:37 pm
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    I still love the nintendo 64, even now when I had the switch, I really wish I could a second chance to buy the n64, I even love its controller

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  • February 20, 2019 at 6:29 pm
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    Ni Jim Carrey hace tantas muecas como ustedes 2 jajaja, exageran excesivamente los movimientos

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  • February 24, 2019 at 11:50 pm
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    Have the new joy sticks improved in 2019? The way Mario was moving would make the game unplayable for me like that.
    Also, how about that new brawler n64 controller?? Is that going to have same dead zone issues????????????????

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  • March 5, 2019 at 8:39 pm
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    Is the bald guy gay?? Sounds like it.

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  • March 10, 2019 at 4:06 pm
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    STEELSTICKS64 works fine?

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  • March 26, 2019 at 5:04 am
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    To be brutaly honest the only thing I dislike about the n64 controller is the stick other than that I do like the controller.

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  • March 26, 2019 at 8:30 pm
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    Open up the lodgenet controller and take out the joystick.

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  • March 28, 2019 at 2:07 am
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    I’ve never used the middle handle and still love the n64 controller. Growing up with giant third party genesis controllers trained me well

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  • April 1, 2019 at 4:40 pm
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    I bought a couple of these like 5 years ago for some controllers with basically dead sticks.
    I really REALLY like the idea, and the feel of it all… but WOW is the sensitivity high on these things.
    It's really really hard to tip-toe in Mario 64. I still haven't used the 2nd stick in anything…
    I know they also sell N64 style replacement sticks, but I haven't heard anything about how they work.
    I'm even more curious now that I'm aware of the degree of motion issues (I hadn't seen that in my little playing)

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  • April 3, 2019 at 2:24 am
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    That dust by the way is the control stick literally killing itself. To make it survive, take the stick mechanism apart and lubricate the bowl and the points where the gears meet the bowl with white lithium grease. The reason the sticks get loose and the white powder appears is because the bowl is being scraped away. Edit: I'd recommend looking for a product called Joystick Butter on Etsy instead of white lithium grease. It just works that much better.

    Also, I mostly think the three pronged design is really stupid since not all of the buttons are available to the player at any given time so you have to awkwardly shift your hand if the game requires it.

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  • April 7, 2019 at 4:46 pm
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    i ordered some wired controllers for xbox 360 (hard to find them) and when they arrived it had the same type feel in the stick. Like ther's no sensitivity to directions…

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  • April 8, 2019 at 3:08 am
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    do you think they fix those problems? because i just buy one, but now is 2019 not 2015, so i hope they fixed the issues.

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  • April 9, 2019 at 2:17 am
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    I was already enjoying the video, and then the Blast Corps soundtrack kicked in and elevated it further. Time to go fire that up again. Keep up the good work, lads!

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  • April 19, 2019 at 2:21 am
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    Never had a problem wen i was a kid

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  • April 24, 2019 at 10:08 am
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    gamecube controller the best controller ever made no cap

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  • April 28, 2019 at 3:50 pm
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    I want to find a good quality analog stick replacement for my N64 controller any link that can help preferible Amazon, thanks

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  • May 1, 2019 at 11:51 am
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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ETQhlSXIsR0&list=WL&index=4&t=0s

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  • May 9, 2019 at 12:05 am
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    Why they break? To go faster at any game you go further if you want to move slowly you barely touch it, especially mario kart with huge turns

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  • May 9, 2019 at 12:06 am
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    What did he just say about the gamecube controler?? Its the best controler of all time

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  • May 9, 2019 at 12:15 am
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    I have to buy 1000 controlers brand new to play with s none broken controler? -.- Does the nintendo switch controler work good?

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  • May 14, 2019 at 4:45 pm
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    I find that a lot of bad analog sticks seems to have been ground down over time. It is a little bit trickier, but if disassemble the analog assembly (as you did in the video), you will find it collects plastic dust in the bottom. Cleaning this out and reassembling can really improve the original assembly.

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  • May 20, 2019 at 11:50 pm
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    So… the stick not works?

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  • May 30, 2019 at 10:03 am
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    They are selling a new style on ebay that have the opto stick built into them. Sounds like they work like the OEM ones… anyone get one yet?

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  • June 10, 2019 at 1:08 am
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    The only thing more outrageous than the blasphemy of removing the original stick of a gold controller… is the claim that he played n64 more than most viewers. I killed three original controllers back in the day, and one stick broke in half when we were attempting some speedruns. So even if you take EXTREME precautions with your joystick (as I do!), these monsters are just not made to last.

    I have since bought many other controllers and stick replacements…but there is nothing like the feeling of the originals.
    You just can't run goldeneye, perfect dark or starfox with those replacements (on a casual level, MAYBE. But you really feel something IS WRONG if you are used to the game). And here is where I believe more reviews FAIL: They don't show the performance of the controllers under extreme conditions (actually, where it really matters, lol).

    My personal test is getting a perfect on either Majora's mask's or Ocarina of time shooting galleries. If the stick allows me to finish it first try, I would recognize that the control is "realiable". The everdrive test is indeed useful, but not definitive.

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  • June 18, 2019 at 2:26 am
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    So, i have one more mod for you, i think the gamecube stick always needed to be longer, my gamecube controller now has the stick from a wii nunchuk, if that stick uses the same style post as a gc stick, it would help a LOT with the slow movement. It made splinter cell on gamecube way more playable.

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  • June 23, 2019 at 12:35 am
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    Does the Lodgnet controller joystick NOT disconnect like the OEM joystick does? Otherwise you could just use that.

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  • June 25, 2019 at 12:16 am
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    You could always buy a brawler 64 controller they are affordable

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  • July 14, 2019 at 4:30 pm
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    Tried every screwdriver I have and couldn’t get out the 2 tiny screwd next to the memory card slot

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  • July 20, 2019 at 12:58 pm
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    Is there a link to the song used during the analog stick replacement? It sounds like a remix from a song from Diddy Kong Racing but I can't find it.

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  • July 22, 2019 at 9:16 pm
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    Nah there’s no way you played more than me, mario party mini games is what ruins most of them 😂

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  • July 28, 2019 at 2:29 pm
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    I suppose you could swap the joysticks of the original and LodgeNet controller

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  • July 30, 2019 at 4:02 pm
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    Such an awesome video!! It´s so nice to see how much they love their consoles. So did I, unfortunatly I dont have my consoles anymore…

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  • August 1, 2019 at 1:33 am
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    I honestly didn’t have analog problems with my original controllers either. The controller I later bought online was almost unusable until I replaced it.

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  • August 6, 2019 at 8:30 pm
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    Well seeing how I have 6 controllers, all with sticks so loose they naturally touch the edges, these are still basically my only option if I want to fix them

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  • September 1, 2019 at 6:14 pm
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    Thank you for this. I Almost bought the GC stick but now after watching your video i know it wont be the right way to treat my baby N64 controller. I want to keep it as original as possible.

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  • September 4, 2019 at 10:03 pm
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    mario party my dude was the reason i turned mine into dust

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  • September 11, 2019 at 5:54 pm
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    One is not a true nerd without the lack of self-awareness that comes with it. Tip of the hat to you, Sir.

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  • September 12, 2019 at 10:01 pm
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    Say hello to good times. Trade up for the fast ride.

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  • September 22, 2019 at 6:10 pm
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    9:33 talk dirty to me…

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  • September 25, 2019 at 12:14 am
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    You may have played N64 more than me, but not more Smash bros. I slammed it from left to right as hard as possible to get those perfect bat swings with NES. It was merciless.

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  • September 25, 2019 at 12:20 am
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    Just get grip cover for the original n64 controller to take away the digging into your finger lol

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