(upbeat electronic music) – There has been a lot of pro controller news this month for the PS4. There’s a lot of new designs
coming out and one of the first ones I’ve been
able to get a hands on with is also one of the more interesting design decisions, and
that’s the Razer Raion. In a way, the Razer Raion
is the first of its kind. Not that it’s the first
ever pro controller or first ever fightpad,
but the first ever, well, something that’s
both of those things. If you’re not familiar with fightpads, normally when it comes to controllers that are dedicated to fighting games, you either have sticks, which are the, you know, giant arcade
sticks that feel like an actual arcade set up
with multiple buttons, stick design, so on, so forth, but then there are also
fightpads like this right here. Now the idea behind a fighting pad is to offer something that’s
a little more familiar to people who grew up playing
fighting games on console while still also having
a specially designed layout for fighting games in mind, especially Street Fighter and a lotta the more six button name-style games. The main decisions come
from having a D-pad, no sticks, and six front-facing
buttons rather than four. Now what makes the Razer Raion kind of a first in this, though, is that usually, historically, fightpads are a much more affordable option than fightsticks. Usually you’re seeing them
in the $40 to $60 range, something that’s equal
to a standard controller but not anything that’s gonna be a pro controller level price. Oh the other hand, arcade sticks, while there are cheap
options, there are a lot of very expensive, very
nice options out there. The Razer Raion walks that line by being a fightpad but
costing considerably more than the average one at 100 bucks. And the reasoning behind
that increased price point is that the Raion is the
first sort of pro-level controller design applied
to a fighting game layout. So we’re gonna go over
what actual features it has and whether or not the improvements are worth that additional 40 to 60 bucks. Now I think it’s a
really common perception in a lotta peoples’ minds
that when it comes to buying an awesome controller
for fighting games, people tend to gravitate
towards fightsticks, which I totally get, especially if you grew up playing games in an arcade, that is a very familiar
experience and it’s really nice. And I also definitely spent some time kinda delving into buying really nice fightsticks and still like using them. But at my heart, I got to admit, there’s something about a fightpad that just feels a lot
more like home for me. I grew up mostly playing fighting games on console, not in arcades. For instance, I spent I
don’t know how many hours playing Street Fighter II
with my brother and SNES. I wasn’t very good at
it but that was where I really started kinda developing
my love of fighting games and so, a pad just feels a
little more natural to me. Now, if the Raion looks
at all familiar to you, it’s probably because
it has a very similar overall shape design to Razer’s other, more traditional pro
controller option, the Raiju. It has a very similar
base body and grip design, which I do find to be really comfortable. Now, as far as special
features and functions go, there are a couple quality
of life ones it has that are somewhat normal in fightpads. You have a switch that allows you to change what the D-pad reads as. By default, it’ll be in D-pad mode but you can switch it over to being left stick or right stick. There are some fighting
games where this makes an important difference
or there might just be some weird specific situations
where you need to have it act as a right stick for something. Now, as for this other
switch on the bottom, this is allowing you to
add additional buttons that are technically
missing from the controller. Now by default, it has two R1s, two R2s, and then a single set of L1 and L2s, but if you use the switch right here, it’s gonna move both the L1 and L2 to being on the right side
and the left shoulder buttons are now gonna act as L3 and R3. So if there’s any games where having a stick click is really important, that option can now be there, or if you just want more
buttons to choose from when using in-game re-mapping options, that’s gonna open it up as well. Now, as for these two
buttons on the front bottom, these are used for audio controls. You do have the ability to plug in a 3.5 millimeter headset right here and with these controls,
you can mute the mic or adjust the volume
by holding this button and using the D-pad up and down. An additional function they offer, though, that is especially designed for a fightpad and something really cool is that if you hit both of them at the same time, it activates a special
mode on the controller that disables the PlayStation home button, the options button, and the share button. So if you’re ever gettin’
really frantic in a match or you have a bad habit of just
hitting one of those buttons kinda idly when you’re
not paying attention, this makes sure that you’re not gonna accidentally throw off a
match or interrupt things in between settings by just
having them do nothing. Also, as is pretty standard of any kind of fighting controller design, this is a dedicated wired connection. There is no way to use
this controller wirelessly and the reason for that
is ’cause fighting games, more than any other genre, having the lowest input latency possible
is extremely important, so you need to have a dedicated wired connection to ensure that. Now all these features
are all well and good but the really big stuff
that really pushes the idea of why the Raion should be worth its money is the button quality, specifically on the D-pad and the front-facing buttons. Now the D-pad on this
actually makes use of the mechano-tactile button
setup that they have for the front-facing buttons on the Raiju where it has this nice
little delightful click. And what’s really interesting about this from a D-pad perspective
is that it gives you a very clear sense of knowing when you’ve hit a specific direction, not only for the up, down, left, right, but
also for all the diagonals. So you’ll actually know,
yes, I definitely did a down to forward input because
I heard all three clicks for the down, the
diagonal, and the forward. As for the six front-facing buttons, these actually don’t use
the kinda clicky sets that you would find on the Raiju but instead rely on Razer’s
own proprietary yellow switches and what their yellow mechanical switches are meant to be is to have
that very low actuation force and just very quick and
light button presses. So it’s not clicky and it
doesn’t give a lotta resistance and it’s designed for very
fast and rapid presses. This is actually very similar to the kinda mechanical buttons
you would find on a fightstick and so it feels very much
at home on this controller. It’s not exactly what
you would necessarily expect to have when you
first open and try it out but it feels very much like
home once you start using it. It’s also worth pointing out that all the front-facing buttons
on the Raion are larger than what you would find on
most standard controllers. Part of the logic for this is that because they are larger, it’s harder to accidentally miss an
input if you’re trying to do things very franticly and quickly. It also makes it so that
you can use the controller in a traditional grip
design like this if you like or you can use a slightly
more arcade-style input by gripping the D-pad
like a normal controller and then placing your other
hand over the buttons like this. One last feature I wanna point out to you that’s just a nice little
extra thing to have is that while this is a licensed
and branded PS4 controller, you can also make use of this on PC. You just have to flip the little switch here on the back to PC mode,
plug into your computer, it’ll install any
firmware you need to use, and it’s good to go right off the bat. This doesn’t work with any of Razer’s other specialty software
because it doesn’t have any kind of lights or
anything to customize for RGB nor does it have re-programmable
buttons outside of what you can do with the
switches on the bottom here. (mellow music) So do all the features that
the Raion has warrant it being considered a pro
version of a regular fightpad? I am leaning towards yes. There are things about it
that I really, really like and some things I’m a little
more mixed and light on. I love the D-pad on it. The idea of actually having
a tactile response click to each directional and feeling it as you’re doing circular
inputs is awesome. It’s not quite the exact same feeling as using an actual classic D-pad but it walks this really nice line between having that kinda smoothness
and circular motion while still having that feedback effect that clickier, kind of more
modern-style D-pads have. As for the front-facing six buttons, I will say it takes a
little getting used to. While it does have that kind
of arcade stick button feeling, it’s not an arcade stick,
it’s a control pad, so there’s a little bit of a
disconnect mentally, I think, when you’re first startin’ using it. And it does feel more
natural when using it in the sort of claw-style position as opposed to a regular
four-button set up, especially because I find a lotta times, when I was first using the controller, I wanted to favor these
buttons over these buttons because this is actually
where four-buttons normally kind of lie and having the R1 and R2 up there throws
it off a little bit. Now, this is definitely something
that you can get used to and as I used the controller
longer and longer, it felt more and more natural, but it did take some time to actually
adapt as opposed to something that just
works right outta the box when I first started using it. One thing that I will say that I thought would’ve bothered me at first but actually didn’t in the long run is the weight of the controller. Traditionally, kind of an
argument I’ve made a lot of times is that I’m not a big fan
of super light controllers, there’s just a quality to
them that feels cheaper, even if the controller in
mind actually isn’t at all, and this is a very, very light controller, but in the situation
where you are holding it in that more kinda
claw-style, it actually feels better that way, I don’t
mind the lightness on it. I think part of me would still prefer a bit more weight to it,
but it’s not a distraction that I feel bad about it being so light. You know, I think at the end of the day, when I think about buying this versus some of the more traditional
kind of fightpads out there, I think the upgrades it
has are significant enough that it is definitely worth
paying the extra money. I don’t think it’s a large enough gap that it makes the other
options completely irrelevant. I think there is room for debating of, “Do I wanna spend the extra money? “Will I still get a good, solid experience “if I wanna spend $40 or $60 instead?” I think there’s still room for that. But if you are down to spend 100 bucks, this thing is awesome. Now something else worth considering is that $100 is the MSRP
for this controller. It is currently not available
in North American areas. You cannot get it in the U.S. or Canada directly from Razer right
now, but you can import it from the areas that it is available in which means that, while it
is a list price of $100, you’re probably gonna end up spending a little bit more money
because it is an import. It’s worth pointing out
that I think there are plans to make it available
in the U.S. eventually, but there’s just nothing
concretely announced just yet, so you could hold off and wait and hopefully see that it comes here or, if you just wanna get your hands on it as soon as possible, go
for that import option. If you’re a fighting game
fan and you love the feeling of using a pad instead
of a regular fightstick, this is definitely worth taking a look at, just for that mechano-tactile D-pad alone, I just, I love it.

NO STICK PS4 Pro Controller
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100 thoughts on “NO STICK PS4 Pro Controller

  • October 19, 2019 at 9:29 pm
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    Fight pad for the players who grew up on controller and want em the 6button layout

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  • October 19, 2019 at 9:35 pm
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    Fake swag Saturn controller swag Saturn was the best fighting controller

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  • October 19, 2019 at 9:40 pm
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    Im down for this except for the clicking dpad.

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  • October 19, 2019 at 10:02 pm
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    If there's no stick on ps5 then how the fuck do we have to look around

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  • October 19, 2019 at 10:06 pm
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    I heard the PS5 controller is going to look like Kevin’s knitted cap!

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  • October 19, 2019 at 10:34 pm
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    Was hoping the scuf vantage 2 would improve the dpad enough to be a good enough for fighting games. Razer is actually doing gods work now

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  • October 19, 2019 at 11:20 pm
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    Can we get a head reveal

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  • October 19, 2019 at 11:29 pm
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    Surprisingly i had to get use to the strange layout of the 8bitdo sn30pro+ because that controller is skinny

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  • October 19, 2019 at 11:46 pm
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    It's razer… it may work fabulously… but, will it suffer the fate of most razer products? ie: not lasting long at all? so will it really be worth the money as most razer products are not?

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  • October 20, 2019 at 12:00 am
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    Clicked away when the words “one hundred bucks” came up

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  • October 20, 2019 at 12:01 am
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    I think I'll just stick with my Hori Fighting Commander. The only thing that interests me is the yellow switch buttons cause I feel hori's buttons have a sorta mushy feeling and I some times can tell they stick down a little every once in a while when I'm putting inputs in really fast.

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  • October 20, 2019 at 12:08 am
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    Ooooh i love imma claw style and kinda hardcore combat game like tekken but the price…. ehhh makes me thinks about it twice

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  • October 20, 2019 at 12:17 am
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    #CursedItems

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  • October 20, 2019 at 12:32 am
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    thanks for the ear rape intro.

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  • October 20, 2019 at 12:36 am
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    This is pretty much the ps4 controller of choice for tournament fighter games like the street fighter and mortal kombat series.

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  • October 20, 2019 at 12:49 am
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    What do you think about the new Xbox controller

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  • October 20, 2019 at 1:01 am
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    oh god I'd hate this thing for street fighter.

    Tekken it'd be fine, but I most certainly would refuse to play streetfighter with this

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  • October 20, 2019 at 1:11 am
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    🚀🚀🚀

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  • October 20, 2019 at 1:14 am
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    That genuinely upset me so much. Like thinking about playing some games with that (not fighting games or 2D platformers) makes me uncomfortable

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  • October 20, 2019 at 1:33 am
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    DUDE. I NEED THIS TRACK!

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  • October 20, 2019 at 1:41 am
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    Is the PC mode xinput?

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  • October 20, 2019 at 1:53 am
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    Thanks for your thoughts on our controller. Hope you continue to use it and improve your gameplay experiences. The idea of this controller is to provide a new level of control and care, which is not something you can adjust to immediately after muscle memory has been built up to standard controllers for the longest time. You explained it very well! Great job.

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  • October 20, 2019 at 2:09 am
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    Kevin what should I get the ps5 or the nintendo switch for my birthday it's a live or death question

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  • October 20, 2019 at 2:48 am
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    It look like Sega controller

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  • October 20, 2019 at 3:28 am
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    Another overpriced garbage product from Razer…. Kevin take the Scully off already dude…. If you're that worried over your hair or your ears just shave it all off or get plastic surgery….

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  • October 20, 2019 at 3:31 am
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    this is fucking AMAZING THANK YOU & YOU ARE AMAZING

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  • October 20, 2019 at 3:48 am
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    For a sec I thought they were gonna show off a controller without a stick, BUT Instead with a touchscreen like analog stick. Like when u play games on ur phone and u move ur fingers on it. Imagine that, but on the blank space on this controller

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  • October 20, 2019 at 4:38 am
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    Hmmm. Bet this is going to cost $200CAD? either way i just bought the Razer Raiju Mobile. and still annoyyed that Controller didn't came with a case, considering i'll be taking that controller with me all over, alongside my Razer Phone 2.

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  • October 20, 2019 at 6:32 am
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    I don't play PlayStation but the controls looks cool I'm more of a Nintendo person

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  • October 20, 2019 at 7:02 am
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    When all you have is walking stories and dialogue decisions in Sony's exclusives, why would you need complex control sticks?

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  • October 20, 2019 at 7:38 am
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    #ps4

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  • October 20, 2019 at 7:50 am
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    Playstation controllers have only been good for 2d games especially the ps3 controller it is just horrible.

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  • October 20, 2019 at 8:21 am
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    I think i am gona stick to my same old ps4 controller 😕☺️☺️☺️

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  • October 20, 2019 at 9:09 am
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    The horipad fight commander 4 is just as good & has a good quality feel to it , it’s a PlayStation licensed controller & the best thing about is the controller had a classic sega genesis shape with a Super Nintendo d pad which many consider it to be the best one on a controller & it has a turbo feature for all you that are trying to rack up on mk11 gear & it only costs about 30 bucks at GameStop. Save your money .

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  • October 20, 2019 at 9:51 am
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    How do I import this to the usa?
    I haven't found any place that will in google.

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  • October 20, 2019 at 10:59 am
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    The talk about cabled connection having less input lag is a myth its been tested and actually bluetooth 3.0 is faster than a cable connection…so im surprised you talked about dedicated wired connection due input latency…i suggest you make a full test video on it…but few weeks back i fell into a google rabbit hole finding out input latency on game controller…since i also want the lowest input lag possible for fps….you will come across the graphic showing different input lag…showing ps4 dual shock bluetooth is the fastest controller…would make for a good video…(i also wired the xbox elite controller for a while thinking it would be faster)
    So you really DONT need a dedicated wired connection, these are the myths channels like your should dismantle it would be interesting and necessary content same for game monitors for console 120 hz on 1440, 4k and hdr etc.

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  • October 20, 2019 at 11:03 am
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    So how does it compare to the MadCatz SFV Fight Pad?

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  • October 20, 2019 at 11:27 am
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    No thanks.

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  • October 20, 2019 at 12:03 pm
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    The reason behind the price is the logo

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  • October 20, 2019 at 12:18 pm
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    $100 for a wired controller that can be used for a specific type of game. I think will stick with my regular controller that can be used on all games.

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  • October 20, 2019 at 1:19 pm
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    Can this work on the Sega Genesis Mini or Switch?

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  • October 20, 2019 at 1:46 pm
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    I want to try this with Wipeout to see if it's faster to do barrel rolls.

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  • October 20, 2019 at 1:56 pm
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    Nani?

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  • October 20, 2019 at 2:00 pm
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    Not sure i could get use to that

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  • October 20, 2019 at 4:35 pm
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    It's not a PS4 Pro controller, it's a PS4 controller.

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  • October 20, 2019 at 5:03 pm
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    Maybe on the ps5 it will have a touch pad instead of sticks

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  • October 20, 2019 at 5:09 pm
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    I think every ps4 controller designer has a fetish with xbox's design

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  • October 20, 2019 at 5:19 pm
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    There's some GameCube styled joycons on Amazon that you should review.

    Wireless Joy-Con for Nintendo Switch, SADES Joy Con (L-R) Wireless Controller Compatible with Nintendo Switch Console Switch Remote Controller Gamepad – Black https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07Y4NZQNQ/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_tIiRDbJ2DEW8W

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  • October 20, 2019 at 5:27 pm
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    Do a scuf vantage 2 review

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  • October 20, 2019 at 7:08 pm
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    Ps4 controller with mechanical switches?!

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  • October 20, 2019 at 7:10 pm
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    Dude, IT'S TIME TO TAKE OFF THE BEANIE! Embrace your baldness. Just shave your head totally. It would look cool. The beanie is starting to look silly now.

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  • October 20, 2019 at 8:25 pm
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    Just a genesis 6 button genesis controller

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  • October 20, 2019 at 8:55 pm
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    You can buy 2 of these for the same price of a Nintendo Switch lite

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  • October 20, 2019 at 9:23 pm
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    For me I like the dual shock 3 because it's kinda comfortable too me

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  • October 20, 2019 at 9:30 pm
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    Honestly for me the psvita has had the BEST d-pad for fighting games I’ve ever used and i just keep looking for a controller similar to the feel it had

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  • October 20, 2019 at 9:35 pm
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    Reminder this is over $100 dollars

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  • October 20, 2019 at 10:29 pm
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    Ape Escape: Am I a joke to you?

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  • October 20, 2019 at 11:02 pm
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    This wasn’t necessary. The DS4 already has the best dpad.

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  • October 20, 2019 at 11:06 pm
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    * /
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  • October 20, 2019 at 11:37 pm
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    Will it me better at Mighty morphin power rangers battle for the grid?

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  • October 21, 2019 at 12:56 am
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    Better be half the price

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  • October 21, 2019 at 1:10 am
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    that was creepy that face

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  • October 21, 2019 at 1:46 am
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    It’s gonna help my E Honda and Chun li put hands and feet on you!!!

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  • October 21, 2019 at 3:08 am
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    If you go to his first videos you can see him without his beanie

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  • October 21, 2019 at 3:28 am
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    Kevin: Wired connections have the least latency.
    The Switch Pro Controller in Smash Bros Ultimate: …

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  • October 21, 2019 at 3:41 am
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    "and the reason behind that price…" Cut the bullshit

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  • October 21, 2019 at 6:35 am
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    Sega Genesis entered the chat

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  • October 21, 2019 at 9:40 am
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    WHERES OUR OUTRO KEVINATOR???!?!!!!

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  • October 21, 2019 at 9:47 am
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    This controller is so uncomfortable to even look at !

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  • October 21, 2019 at 10:01 am
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    WTF is a “fight pad”?

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  • October 21, 2019 at 12:07 pm
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    But why

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  • October 21, 2019 at 1:34 pm
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    Removing that stick is the same as having a laptop trackpad.

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  • October 21, 2019 at 1:36 pm
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    This should be renamed as PS4 Insane Controller. Imagine how hard FPS games without Aim and Guitar Hero by pressing R1, R2 and X using the same finger.

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  • October 21, 2019 at 1:40 pm
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    PS4 is now adopting the old SNES controllers.

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  • October 21, 2019 at 2:43 pm
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    Stupid af. Other pro controllers: YOU CAN CHANGE EVERYTHING This controller: not even a stick

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  • October 21, 2019 at 2:45 pm
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    Dislike. This controller is shit and it will always be shit. And wtf nearly 10mins about a fucking controller WITHOUT SHIT. next controller has no buttons at all -_-

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  • October 21, 2019 at 2:49 pm
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    No analog o sale it is hell inputting zangief skropiledriver

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  • October 21, 2019 at 2:53 pm
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    I want this, but on xbox one

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  • October 21, 2019 at 3:25 pm
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    So it’s not an actual pro controller -_-

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  • October 21, 2019 at 5:42 pm
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    Hope razor makes one for Xbox one

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  • October 21, 2019 at 9:16 pm
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    I fear no man but that thing
    Shows this controller
    It scares me

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  • October 21, 2019 at 9:32 pm
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    Sony is not going the right way

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  • October 21, 2019 at 10:55 pm
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    Wut

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  • October 22, 2019 at 12:34 am
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    No One calls PlayStation controllers pro controllers just saying

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  • October 22, 2019 at 2:03 am
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    This controller is totally meant to be played claw style

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  • October 22, 2019 at 6:16 am
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    That close up on your eyes show your true stoner lol

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  • October 22, 2019 at 8:14 am
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    this is for flappy bird

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  • October 22, 2019 at 2:34 pm
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    Do you know you can just don't use analogs on DS4 while playing MK, Tekken or something else?

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  • October 22, 2019 at 4:25 pm
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    Poop

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  • October 22, 2019 at 4:27 pm
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    Does it work with the controller adapters for the switch? Would love to have a d-pad for links awakening, and this seems like a more comfortable option than the new 8bitdo one.

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  • October 22, 2019 at 5:13 pm
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    Reviewing A Controller designed for Fighting Games
    Inserts Mortal Kombat 11

    Guilty Gear, BlazBlue, Under Night In Birth, Street Fighter, Skull girls, Killer Instinct: Are we a joke to you?

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  • October 22, 2019 at 6:41 pm
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    Hmmm… just a simple pro controller. I like the idea. This sould be must more rigid than others. It will be a good idea to build a similar one with sticks… Usually simple but quality products are much better. I always like simple and not a product full of "technologies"…

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  • October 22, 2019 at 6:54 pm
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    I might pick this up because the entire reason I switched to Arcade stick is because I absolutely loathe the DS4 controller

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  • October 22, 2019 at 10:26 pm
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    Oh wow, they made a PS1 controller with two extra face buttons.

    Price:$100

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  • October 22, 2019 at 11:09 pm
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    who would want this thing

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  • October 23, 2019 at 1:57 am
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    I want this for the D-Pad Alone, and don't play fighting games beyond a casual level. It's a Shield Style D-Pad, which I prefer to the Plus Style because diagonals are easier, and it has microswitches?!

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  • October 23, 2019 at 9:05 am
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    Shit controller you need each directional butten seperate that cheap xbox 360 D pad has more miss inputs then you want throw it away – Rank 1 Ermac MKX

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  • October 23, 2019 at 9:11 am
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    so basically a fightpad

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