44 thoughts on “Swing Low, Sweet Rugby Controversy?

  • March 27, 2017 at 8:34 am
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    CNN = Fake News
    Your company is TOAST.

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  • March 27, 2017 at 8:35 am
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    Alex Jones is a Fraud!!!

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  • March 27, 2017 at 9:00 am
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    lol fuck off 'cultural appropriation' my arse. just stick to your own sinking ship U.S.A.

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  • March 27, 2017 at 9:08 am
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    And the UK says… who gives a fuck.. nobody likes rugby.Wanna watch a ball game.. watch soccer.Wanna see two guys with cauliflower ears pummel each other?…. watch boxing.

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  • March 27, 2017 at 9:24 am
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    It is ironic that one of the whitest poshest crowds in world sport rugby union, big crowd anthem is a black slave song. It is only appropriation if people forget where it originated from and stories like this make it clear it was a black slave song.

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  • March 27, 2017 at 9:31 am
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    cnn desperately flailing around trying to invent fake controversies to attempt to make their discredited brand relevant again. 
    Dig your grave, cnn.

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  • March 27, 2017 at 9:41 am
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    First off, many of the thread starters before me are lame. Secondly, no one owns culture. The whole idea of cultural appropriation is nothing more than someone using an excuse to be babied. If someone comes up with something cool, and other people start doing it, then it becomes culture. Unless an action is purposefully targeting another person with their action to help or harm them without their consent, NO ONE has a legitimate claim to bitch, gripe, complain, or interfere. If you think otherwise, then go back to your cave to hide from all your societal phobias where you can be emperor of your own little microcosm.

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  • March 27, 2017 at 9:46 am
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    Certainly Not News

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  • March 27, 2017 at 9:47 am
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    Fake News. It was written after the Civil war in 1865, so it could not possibly have been a US slave spiritual song. It is an English drinking song now. I have never heard a black person sing this in my entire life.

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  • March 27, 2017 at 9:49 am
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    The Race Bait Network. Selling outrage and victimhood on a fake news platform

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  • March 27, 2017 at 9:57 am
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    in a hundred years whites in America will be a minority I wonder what will bother them

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  • March 27, 2017 at 9:59 am
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    It's a great song, I love it. The England Rugby team should get their own song though. Something like 'do the hokey pokey'. The Australian Wallabies Rugby team have their own anthem, Waltzing Matilda (also the battle hymn of the US Marine Corps 1st Div). The story of a sheep duffer & swaggie (drifter) who commits suicide. Entirely appropriate.

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  • March 27, 2017 at 10:22 am
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    sounds like a pretty crazy controversy….

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  • March 27, 2017 at 10:28 am
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    running out of news fake news CNN?

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  • March 27, 2017 at 10:44 am
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    Great to see every one hates CNN still

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  • March 27, 2017 at 11:00 am
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    alot of hoopla

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  • March 27, 2017 at 11:12 am
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    Oh fuck off…

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  • March 27, 2017 at 11:28 am
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    This is why liberals are repulsive. I'm a Obama, Sanders supporter and the liberal, granola eating, whining, bitchy liberal thing makes me throw up in disgust.

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  • March 27, 2017 at 1:09 pm
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    I'm not a huge fan of mainstream media because I love the people's media which is online media. But why if you hate CNN so much do you watch this "fake" news? You guys remind me of Trump,

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  • March 27, 2017 at 1:16 pm
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    what happened that day no news in the entire world this was the only story must have been a slow day

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  • March 27, 2017 at 1:25 pm
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    Black people need to stop appropriating white peoples technologies.

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  • March 27, 2017 at 1:57 pm
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    Fake News!

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  • March 27, 2017 at 3:02 pm
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    there is only controversy because you fuckers at CNN are trying to divide people on racial lines. race is a jewish construct. they are trying to create division and bring this current world down to build a "new" one. just like how there is a movement to abolish the "redskins" in washington DC. FUCK OFF CNN.

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  • March 27, 2017 at 3:02 pm
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    The song was first sung by England fans during their victory over Ireland in 1988 in tribute to african born Chris Oti who scored three tries in the match. This song's association with English rugby pre-dates its use by the national side as it was sung by many clubs in domestic matches. Some cultural misappropriation can be offensive but I don't think this use is.

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  • March 27, 2017 at 3:13 pm
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    Irish Slaves abound today and in history .
    In Jamaica , on the sugar plantations , red haired Irish Women slaves were mated like animals to the strongest , tallest , smartest black male slaves to produce a desired commodity .. cafe au lait mulattoes to be used as beautiful house slaves by Jefferson and those like him . He loved them , you might say .
    Modern Capitalism depends on Modern Slavery , as we all know .
    Subsistence permitted for the workers , but they own nothing .

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  • March 27, 2017 at 3:43 pm
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    I don't believe this is a really big deal

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  • March 27, 2017 at 4:47 pm
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    So people are using the for positive reasons, and little whiny SJWs are complaining. Fuck them. keep singing the song.

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  • March 27, 2017 at 7:01 pm
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    I don't find it offensive… but that's just me..

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  • March 29, 2017 at 3:04 pm
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    now I know it pisses off snowflakes, I will sing it at every England match, as I always have. people don't own words, ergo they can not be appropriated.

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  • July 4, 2017 at 3:39 pm
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    Most of the people who don't find this offensive are not even African Americans. If your not black then you really don't have a say bc it's not your culture and roots that it being appropriated. The rugby teams took this song and made a watered down soulless bland bleach version. This song was written by a former slave and is about escaping slavery. You can't just take it and use it for sports which is completely disrespectful to the meaning of the lyrics. This maybe shocking and odd to white people but how about having some respect for cultures and not taking it and without giving credit and then get mad and confused when the original culture gets offended.

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  • July 4, 2017 at 3:48 pm
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    This whole idea that culture is meant to be shared and doesn't belong to people is stupid. That's the whole idea of culture. Kimonos will always belong to the Japanese . Salsa will always belong to the Hispanics. Hip hop, r&b, jazz and blues will always belong to African Americans. Samba will always being tô Afro Brazilians. That doesn't mean that people can't listen and appreciate it. Just don't take it. There is a difference between cultural appropriation and cultural appreciation. Unfortunately most of the time cultural appropriation happens. Taking something from a culture without considering it's value and sacredness in said culture and completely changing t and taking credit for it is WRONG and it's not appreciation. Stop trying to justify your thievery of different cultures. You can appreciate without taking

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  • September 19, 2017 at 2:53 pm
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    Get a grip people. This song is now immortalized into England Rugby legend. It's an anthem, not a chant. The fans are not trying to be offensive.

    Listen to the song 'Jerusalem', one of England's national anthems. It has the line "bring my chariots of fire". In Swing Low, there's a line that says "coming forth to carry me home". One could interpret that as a lead to victory hymn for England, as it has for decades.

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  • November 19, 2017 at 9:27 pm
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    People need to stop being so PC or we will soon won't be able to open our mouthes without 'offending' the PC brigade.

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  • June 26, 2018 at 4:41 pm
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    It’s our war song when England are in a shit position and close to losing you will hear this song sung in every corner of England cheering for our team and now some American news cast is gonna tell us it’s racist and we need stop. Well you can bugger off

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  • August 22, 2018 at 3:44 pm
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    Mind your own business yanks! We'll sing what we want.

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  • November 3, 2018 at 2:05 pm
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    Fuck off ameirca!

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  • November 12, 2018 at 1:26 am
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    Nothing like an American news outlet getting involved in a matter that causes absolutely no division whatsoever over here, that causes no controversy, trying to sew division. Stay out it has nothing to do with you. Please do not take a song that brings people together and try to turn it into a matter of dvision

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  • November 26, 2018 at 11:35 am
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    Look closer to home dumb yanks, native americans……keep your nose out

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  • December 26, 2018 at 5:53 am
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    It's a beautiful song and the English fans sing so well.

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  • December 28, 2018 at 8:54 pm
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    I'm glad we burned Washinton to the ground ! -epic horse fonderling twats!

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  • February 22, 2019 at 12:33 am
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    Fuck American identity politics and the idiots everywhere that propagate it.

    Rugby doesn't do "cultural appropriation", it's a game that started at an upper class English school that has captured the hearts of people in dozens of nations who "appropriated" it, and as an Englishman, I am absolutely delighted that they did. New Zealand don't have the Maori players do the Haka whilst the white players sing the anthem, they do the anthem together and the Haka together.

    America only understands division and disrespect, rugby is about unity and respect. I'll only sing Swing Lo louder now I know it upsets snowflakes.

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  • July 8, 2019 at 11:46 pm
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    If it’s us academics Were talking about then idgaf

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  • July 26, 2019 at 9:19 am
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    Mind your own business America. Hope we trigger a few snowflakes when we sing it against you in the World Cup.

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  • September 8, 2019 at 9:06 pm
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    Hmmm, interesting. Swing Low, Sweet Chariot is considered to be a "Negro Spiritual", sung by slaves in the American South before emancipation.

    And because of that, only black Americans are allowed to have anything to do with it. So goes the theory.

    Two problems with that pile of horseshit.

    First, the song was sung by black American SLAVES, they say. Since there are no more slaves, surely NO ONE has the right to sing it now. Only slaves, right?

    Second, the song was not written by a black person. It was actually penned by a Choctaw, which a Native American tribe.

    Surely, black folks taking on the song as their own is therefore cultural appropriation in the first place?

    But they sang it in solidarity, to identify with the rest of the group, having the same shared experience and outlook. This is certainly no different to what the England rugby fans are doing now.

    This whole thing is just an attempt to stir up trouble about a pretty innocent thing. FFS, stop it!

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